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<h1>Industrial Conspiracies</h1>
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<h4>By CLARENCE S. DARROW</h4>
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<p>Mr. Darrow said:</p>
<p>I feel very grateful to you for the warmth and earnestness of your
reception. It makes me feel sure that I am amongst friends. If I had
to be tried again, I would not mind taking a change of venue to
Portland (applause); although I think I can get along where I am
without much difficulty.</p>
<p>The subject for tonight's talk was not chosen by me but was chosen for
me. I don't know who chose it, nor just what they expected me to say,
but there is not much in a name, and I suppose what I say tonight
would be just about the same under any title that anybody saw fit to
give.</p>
<p>I am told that I am going to talk about "Industrial Conspiracies." I
ought to know something about them. And I <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'wont'">won't</ins> tell you all I know
tonight, but I will tell you some things that I know tonight.</p>
<p>The conspiracy laws, you know, are very old. As one prominent laboring
man said on the witness stand down in Los Angeles a few weeks ago when
they asked him if he was not under indictment and what for, he said he
was under indictment for the charge they always made against working
men when they hadn't done anything—<ins class="correction" title="period missing in the original">conspiracy.</ins> And that is
the charge they <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'alays'">always</ins> make. It is the one they have always made
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against everybody when they wanted them, and particularly against working men,
because they want them oftener than they do anybody else. (Applause).</p>
<p>When they want a working man for anything excepting work they want him
for conspiracy. (Laughter). And the greatest conspiracy that is
possible for a working man to be guilty of is not to work—a
conspiracy the other fellows are always guilty of. (Applause). The
conspiracy laws are very old. They were very much in favor in the Star
Chamber days in England. If any king or ruler wanted to get rid of
someone, and that someone had not done anything, they indicted him for
what he was thinking about; that is, for conspiracy; and under it they
could prove anything that he ever said or did, and anything that
anybody else ever said or did to prove what he was thinking about; and
therefore that he was guilty. And, of course, if anybody was thinking,
it was a conspiracy against the king; for you can't think without
thinking against a king. (Applause). The trouble is most people don't
think. (<ins class="correction" title="original reads 'Laugher'">Laughter</ins>
and <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'appause'">applause</ins>).
And therefore they are not <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'guity'">guilty</ins> of
conspiracy. (Laughter and <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'appause'">applause</ins>).</p>
<p>The conspiracy laws in England were <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'especialy'">especially</ins> used against working
men, and in the early days, not much more than a hundred years ago,
for one working man to go to another and suggest that he ask for
higher wages was a conspiracy, punishable by imprisonment. For a few
men to come together and form a labor organization in England was a
conspiracy. It is not here. Even the employer is willing to let you
form labor organizations, if you don't do anything but pass
resolutions. (Laughter and applause).</p>
<p>But the formation of unions in the early days in England
was a conspiracy, and so they used to meet in the forests and
in the rocks and in the caves and waste places and hide their
records in the earth where the informers and detectives and
Burnes' men of those days could not get hold of them. (Applause).
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It used to be a crime for a working man to leave the county without
the consent of the employer; and they never gave their consent. They
were bought and sold with the land. Some of them are now. It reached
that pass in England after labor unions were formed, that anything
they did was a conspiracy, and to belong to one was practically a
criminal offense. These laws were not made by Parliament; of course
they were not made by the people. No law was ever made by the people;
they are made for the people (applause); and it does not matter
whether the people have a right to vote or not,
they never make the laws. (Applause).</p>
<p>These laws, however, were made by judges, the same officials who make
the laws in the United States today. (Applause).</p>
<p>We send men to the Legislature to make law, but they don't make them.</p>
<p>I don't care who makes a law, if you will let me interpret it.
(Laughter). I would be willing to let the Steel Trust make a law if
they would let me tell what it meant after they got it made.
(Laughter). That has been the job of the judges, and that is the
reason the powerful interests of the world always want the courts.
They let you have the members of the Legislature, and the Aldermen and
the Constable, if <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'hey'">they</ins>
can have the judges.</p>
<p>And so in England the judges by their decisions tied the working man
hand and foot until he was a criminal if he did anything but work, as
many people think he is today. He actually was at that time, until
finally Parliament, through the revolution of the people, repealed all
these laws that judges had made, wiped them all out of existence, and
did, for a time at least, leave the working man free; and then they
began to organize, and it has gone on to that extent in England today,
that labor organizations are as firmly established as Parliament
itself. Much better established there than here.</p>
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We in this country got our early laws from England. We took pretty
much everything that was bad from England and left most that was good.
(Applause). At first, when labor organizations were started they had a
fair chance; they were left comparatively free; but when they began to
grow the American judges got busy. They got busy with injunctions,
with conspiracy laws, and there was scarcely anything that a labor
organization could do that was not an industrial conspiracy.</p>
<p>Congress took a hand, not against labor; but to illustrate what I said
about the difference between making a law and telling what the law
means, we might refer to the act which was considered a great law at
the time of its passage, a law defining conspiracy and combinations in
reference to trade, the Sherman anti-trust law. In the meantime, the
combinations of capital had grown so large that even respectable
people began to be afraid of them, farmers and others who never learn
anything until everybody else has forgotten it (laughter); they began
to be afraid of them. They found the great industrial organizations of
the country controlling everything they used. One powerful
organization owned all the oil there was in the United States; another
handful of men owned all the anthracite coal there was in the United
States; a few men owned all the iron mines in the United States; and
the people began to be alarmed about it. And so they passed a law
punishing conspiracies against trade. The father of the law was
Senator Sherman of Ohio. The law was debated long in Congress and the
Senate. Every man spoke of it as a law against the trusts and
monopolies, conspiracies in restraint of trade and commerce. Every
newspaper in the country discussed it as that; every labor
organization so considered it.</p>
<p>Congress passed it and the President signed it, and then
an indictment was found against a corporation, and it went to
the Supreme Court of the United States for the Supreme Court to
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say what the law meant. Of course Congress can't pass a law that you
and I can understand. (Laughter). They may use words that are only
found in the primer, but we don't know what they mean. Nobody but the
Supreme Court can tell what they mean.</p>
<p>Everybody supposed this law was plain and simple and easily
understood, but when they indicted a combination of capital for a
conspiracy in restraint of trade, the Supreme Court said this law did
not apply to them at all; that it was never meant to fit that
particular case. So they tried another one, and they indicted another
combination engaged in the business of cornering markets, engaged in
the business of trade, rich people, good people. It means the same
thing. (Laughter). And the Supreme Court decided that this law did not
fit their case, and every one began to wonder what the law did mean
anyhow. And after awhile there came along the strike of a body of
laboring men, the American Railway Union. They didn't have a dollar in
the world altogether, because they were laboring men and they were not
engaged in trade; they were working; but they hadn't found anything
else that the Sherman anti-trust act applied to, so they indicted Debs
and his followers for a conspiracy in restraint of trade; and they
carried this case to the Supreme Court. I was one of the attorneys who
carried it to the Supreme Court. Most lawyers only tell you about the
cases they win. I can tell you about some I lose. (Applause). A lawyer
who wins all his cases does not have many. (Laughter).</p>
<p>Debs was indicted for a conspiracy in restraint of trade. It is not
quite fair to say that I lost that case, because he was indicted and
fearing he might get out on the indictment the judge issued an injunction
against him. (Laughter). The facts were the same as if a man were suspected
of killing somebody and a judge would issue an injunction against him for
shooting his neighbor and he would kill his neighbor with a pistol
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shot and then they would send him to jail for injuring his clothes for
violating an injunction. (Laughter). Well, they indicted him and they
issued an injunction against him for the same thing. Of course, we
tried the indictment before a jury, and that we won. You can generally
trust a part of a jury anyhow, and very often all of them. But the
court passed on the injunction case, and while the facts were just the
same and the law was just the same, the jury found him innocent, but
the court found him guilty. (Laughter). And Judge Wood said that he
had violated the injunction. Then we carried it to the Supreme Court
on the ground that the Sherman anti-trust law, which was a law to
punish conspiracies in restraint of trade, was not meant for labor
unions but it was meant for people who are trading, just as an
ordinary common man would understand the meaning of language, but the
Supreme Court said we didn't know anything about the meaning of
language and that they had at last found what the Sherman anti-trust
law meant and that it was to break up labor unions; and they sent Mr.
Debs to jail under that law (laughter and applause), and nobody,
excepting someone connected with the union had ever been sent to jail
under that law, and probably never will be.</p>
<p>So of course, even the employer, the Merchants' and Manufacturers'
Association and the Steel Trust, even they would be willing to let the
Socialists go to the Legislature and make the laws, as long as they
can get the judges to tell what the law means. (Loud applause). For
the courts are the bulwarks of property, property rights and property
interests, and they always have been. I don't know whether they always
will be. I suppose they will always be, because before a man can be
elected a judge he must be a lawyer.</p>
<p>They did patch up the laws against combinations in restraint
of trade. Even the fellows who interpreted it, were ashamed
of it and they fixed it up so they might catch somebody
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else, and they brought a case against the Tobacco Trust, and after
long argument and years of delay the Supreme Court decided on the
Tobacco Trust and they decided that this was a combination in
restraint of trade, but they didn't send anybody to jail. They didn't
even fine them. They gave them six months—not in jail, but six
months in which to remodel their business so it would conform to the
law, which they did. (Applause and laughter). But plug tobacco is
selling just as high as it ever was, and higher.</p>
<p>They brought an action against the Standard Oil Trust—Mr. Roosevelt's
enemy. (Laughter and applause). That is what he says. (Laughter and
applause). They brought an action against the Standard Oil Trust to
dissolve the Trust and they listened patiently for a few years—the
Supreme Court is made up of old men, and they have got lots of time
(laughter)—and after a few years they found out what the people had
known for twenty-five years, that it was a trust, and they so decided
that this great corporation had been a conspiracy in restraint of
trade for years, had been fleecing the American people. I don't
suppose anybody would have brought an action against them, excepting
that they had a corner on gasoline and the rich people didn't like to
pay so much for gasoline to run their automobiles. (Laughter and
applause). They found out that the Standard Oil Company was guilty of
a conspiracy under the Sherman anti-trust law, and they gave them six
months in which to change the form of their business, and Standard Oil
stock today is worth more than it ever was before in the history of
the world, and gasoline has not been reduced in price, nor anything
else that they have to sell. There never has been an instance since
that law was passed where it has ever had the slightest effect upon
any combination of capital, but under it working men are promptly sent
to jail; and it was passed to protect the working man and the consumer
against the trusts of the United States. So, you see, it does not
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make much difference what kind of a law we make as long as the judges
tell us what it means.</p>
<p>The Steel Trust has not been hurt. They are allowed to go their way,
and they have taken property, which at the most, is worth three
hundred million dollars and have capitalized it and bonded it for a
billion and a half, or five <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'dolars'">dollars</ins>
for every one that it represents,
and the interests and dividends which have been promptly paid year by
year have come from the toil and the sweat and the life of the
American workingman. (Applause). And nobody interferes with the Steel
Trust; at least, nobody but the direct action men. (Laughter and
applause). The courts are silent, the states' attorneys are silent;
the governors are silent; all the officers of the law are silent,
while a great monster combination of crooks and criminals are riding
rough-shod over the American people. (Applause). But it is the working
man who is guilty of the industrial conspiracy. They and their friends
are the ones who are sent to jail. It is the powerful and the strong
who have the keys to the jails and the penitentiaries, and there
is not much danger of their locking themselves in jails and
<ins class="correction" title="original reads 'penitentaries'">penitentiaries</ins>.
The working man never did have the keys. Their
business has been to build them and to fill them.</p>
<p>There have been other industrial conspiracies, however, which are the
ones that interest me most, and it is about these and what you can do
about them and what you can't do about them that I wish to talk
tonight.</p>
<p>The real industrial conspiracies are by the other fellow. It is
strange that the people who have no property have been guilty of all
of the industrial conspiracies, and the people who own all the earth
have not been guilty of any industrial conspiracy. It is like our
criminal law. Nearly all the laws are made to protect property; nearly all
the crimes are crimes against property, and yet only the poor go to jail.
That is, all the people in our jail have committed crimes against property,
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and yet they have not got a cent. The people outside have so much
property they don't know what to do with it, and they have committed
no crime against property. So with the industrial conspiracies, those
who are not in trade or commerce are the ones who have been guilty of
a conspiracy to restrict trade and commerce, and those who are in
trade and commerce that have all the money have not been guilty of
anything. Their business is prosecuting other people so they can keep
what they have got and get what little there is left.</p>
<p>But there are real industrial conspiracies. They began long ages ago,
and they began by direct action, when the first capitalist took his
club and knocked the brains out of somebody who wanted a part of it
for himself. That is direct action. They got the land by direct
action. They went out and took it. If anybody was there, they drove
them off or killed them, as the case might be. It is only the other
fellow that can't have direct action. They got all their title to the
earth by direct action. Of course, they have swapped it more or less,
since, but the origin is there. They just went out and took possession
of it, and it is theirs. And the strong have always done it; they have
reached out and taken possession of the earth.</p>
<p>A few men today can control all the industry and do control all of the
industry of this country. A dozen men sitting around the table in a
big city can bring famine if they wish; they can paralyze the wheels
of industry from one end of the United States to the other, and the
prosperity of villages, cities and towns, and the wages of its people
depends almost entirely upon the wills of a dozen men.</p>
<p>They have taken the mines; and all the coal there is in the
United States, or practically all, is controlled today by a few
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companies who can tell us just what we must pay, and
if we are not willing to pay it, we can freeze; and we respect
private property so much that we will stand around and freeze
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rather than take the coal that nature placed in the earth for all
mankind. (Applause).</p>
<p>All the iron ore in the United States that is worth taking is owned
and controlled by the Steel Trust, one combination with a very few men
managing the business; not more than a half a dozen absolutely
controlling it have their will; and nobody can have any iron ore, or
mold it or use it, excepting at the will of a few men who have taken
possession of what nature placed there for all of us, if we were wise
enough to use it and understand it. And the great forests of the
United States, what is left of them—and there is not so very much
left. We are a wise people. We pass laws now for the protection of
timber in the United States, so it won't be destroyed too fast, and at
the same time, we put a tariff duty of two dollars a thousand on
lumber that comes from somewhere else so that it will be destroyed at
a high price. (Laughter and applause). We are the wisest set of people
of any land that the sun ever shone upon. And if you don't believe it,
ask Roosevelt when he comes here. (Laughter and applause).</p>
<p>A few men control what is left of the forests, a few men and a few
great corporations have taken the earth, what is good of it. They have
left the arid lands, the desert and the mountains which nobody can
use,—the desert for sand heaps and the mountains for scenery. They
are now taxing the people to build reservoirs so that the desert will
blossom; and after it begins to blossom, they will take that. (Applause).
And even if they didn't own the land, they own all the ways there are of
getting to it, and they are able to take from the farmer just so much of
his grain as they see fit to take, and so far as the farmer is concerned,
I wish they would take it all (laughter and applause), because he always
has been against the interests of every man that toils, including himself.
(Applause). And they are able to say to the working man engaged in
industry just how much of his product they will take, and
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from him they take just enough to leave him alive. They have got to
leave him alive, or he can't work, and they have got to leave him
enough strength and ambition to propagate his species or the rich
people can't get their work done in the next generation. And that is
all that they are bound to leave him.</p>
<p>They own the railroads, the mills, the factories, and all the tools
and implements of trade and commerce, and the workingman has
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one thing to sell. That is his labor, his life; and he has to sell that to
the highest bidder.</p>
<p>There are only a few of these men who own the earth and all of its
fullness. There are millions and millions of the people who do the
work, and if you can keep these millions and millions disorganized and
competing with each other, they will keep wages down themselves
without any help from the bosses. (<ins class="correction" title="original reads 'Laud'">Loud</ins>
applause). On the other hand, there are so few men who own the earth and the tools that they find it
perfectly easy to combine with each other and regulate the price of
their products, and they have learned better than to compete, and
there is no way for the wit of man to make and interpret any law which
will ever set them to competing again. They have managed to control
the price of their products, and charge what they see fit and all they
need is to buy their raw material in the open markets of the world as
cheaply as they can, and labor is the principal raw material that they
use. So of course they want free trade in labor, and protection in
commodities; and they have always had it, and our wise Americans that
are the marvel of the day, including the working people, have cheerfully
given them protection in the commodities that they sell and free trade
in the labor which they buy. (Applause). And they thought by protecting
the Steel Trust, so there can't be any foreign competition that it will
make the Steel Trust so rich that they can afford to pay high prices to
their working men. It is one thing to make a man rich enough so he can
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afford to pay high wages; it is another thing to make him pay. (Laughter).</p>
<p>So the employer and the capitalist have combined in all industry, and
they fix the price to suit themselves and insist that the workingman
shall come to them individually and unorganized and compete with each
other for a day's labor, so they can buy labor at the smallest cost
and if, perchance, there are not working men enough here, they want
the ports of the world opened so they can draw on China or Japan or
any other country on the face of the earth, and get working men there
to work for them at the smallest price.</p>
<p>The game is simple and easy. It seems as if it were simple enough for
an American farmer to understand; but he doesn't. (Laughter).</p>
<p>Now, the original conspiracy, industrial conspiracy, has been on the
part of the strong to take the earth, and they have got it. They own
it, and all they need now is to get enough working men and women at a
low enough price to make them as much wealth as they want. It is
pretty hard to fill that market, they want so much; but that is all
they need. And the conspiracy on the other side of the workingman of
the United States is the same conspiracy as the conspiracy of the
workingman of the world, and it has only one object. We may temporize;
we may be content with a little; we may stop at half measures, but in
the end it only has one object, and that is for the workers of the
world to take back the earth that has been taken from us. (Cries of
hurrah and loud cheering).</p>
<p>Take it back, and have all the products of their toil, not part of it,
but all of it. Now, it is a long road. It is a universal, world-wide
conspiracy by the intelligent working people and by their friends the
world over to get back the earth that has been stolen by direct
action. (Applause).</p>
<p>Now, no one who understands this question wants anything less
and the employer is right when he says if workingmen are
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permitted to organize they won't stop with that; and they won't.
(Applause). You may place every lawyer on the bench and you may place
a jail in every block and a penitentiary in every ward, and the
workingmen won't stop. (Applause). If they will, they deserve to be
workingmen forever. <ins class="correction" title="starting bracket missing in the original">(Applause)</ins>.</p>
<p>The employer understands that if workingmen organize something will be
doing; and so he does not believe in organization. Sometimes he says
he does, but he does not. If workingmen must organize, then the thing
is to keep them as quiet as they can, to turn their labor meetings
into prayer meetings. (Laughter and applause). They are entirely
harmless. They don't help the people who pray, and the Lord has always
been so far away from the workingman that it doesn't bother Him
either. (Laughter). They are willing even, as I have said, to let them
pass resolutions, but that is about the limit. (Laughter). They
understand that one thing leads to another, and if they concede higher
wages today, next year they will want another raise and so they will.
There is no danger of raising it too high for a long while to come.
And if they concede shorter hours today, next year they may want them
shorter still. Everybody is working for shorter hours, especially the
people who don't work. And they are all working for bigger pay; even
those who get all there is, they want more. And of course, there will
be no stopping, there will be no end to the demand, until we get it
all, and that is a long way off.</p>
<p>And the question is how? And that is not so easy. It is easier to tell
how you can't get it than to tell how you can get it. It is easier to
tell how you haven't got it than how you are going to get it.</p>
<p>There is another thing that they are fairly well satisfied with: They don't
worry much about voting. They have been satisfied to let all the men vote,
and they have still kept their property. (Laughter). They will be satisfied
to let all the women vote, and they will still keep their property. Voting
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has not done very much. We have been practicing at it for more than a
hundred years, and it is a nice little toy to keep people satisfied,
but that is all it has done so far. (Applause).</p>
<p>Of course, here and there we have been able to pass a few laws. For
instance, we have statutes which forbid women from working in a
factory more than ten hours a day. (Laughter). Now, we have done
something. (Laughter and applause). We have statutes forbidding men to
labor more than a certain number of hours a day. That is, people like
to work; they love it so dearly that you have to pass a law to keep a
working man from working. (Laughter).</p>
<p>When we pass laws to keep men and women from working it ought to show
the stupidest mind that there is something terribly wrong with the
industrial conditions under which we live. If men had a chance to work
and get all the proceeds of their work, you would not have to pass
laws to keep them from working. They would stop soon enough. And if
every man could employ his own labor and receive the full product of
his toil it would make no difference how hard <ins class="correction" title="original reads 'you'">your</ins>
neighbor worked, it would not hurt you in the least, and you could
let him work himself to death if he wanted to.</p>
<p>The only difficulty is under the patch work industrial system of today
where a few men own all the earth, and all the factories and mills and
are compelled to sell their product to the workingman, they give him
such a small share of that product that the workingmen haven't
anything to buy it with. They can't buy it back, and so there is not
work enough to go around. And for that reason we are tinkering up this
old system of laws to keep people from working, and we pass a law to
limit the number of hours that a man can work and to limit the number
of hours that a woman can work, and to limit the age at which a little
child can be fed into a factory or a mill.</p>
<p>Do you suppose that the fatherhood and the motherhood of
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the people of the United States is not of a high enough grade so they
would not send their children to a factory or a mill if there was any
way to avoid it? And do you think under any fair system of industry and
life we would ever need a law to keep a child out of a factory or a mill?
(Applause).</p>
<p>We have managed to pass some laws to require safety appliances in
factories and in mills and upon railroads. For instance, to put a
guard on a buzz saw so that a workingman won't saw his hand instead of
sawing the wood. (Laughter). But if a workingman had any chance to
employ his labor and get what he produced he would not be fooling with
a buzz saw and there would be no need of it and he would look out for
the safety of the machines himself and do it a great deal better than
the Government ever did it or can ever possibly do it. (Applause). So
we have done everything and tried everything, excepting to strike at
the root of any evil and accomplish something of real value. We have
even passed laws excluding the Chinaman and the Jap from the United
States. That is, we love our own people so dearly that we won't let
the Chinaman or the Jap do the work for them. (Laughter). We want our
people to have all the work, and if they come here and volunteer to do
it we won't let them; for work is a blessing under the present
industrial system. We have to work. If we stop we starve.</p>
<p>Now, I could imagine a system, and it seems to me that most all of you
could imagine a system that was so fair and so just and so equal that
if any body of philanthropic heathens would agree to come over here
and do our work for us, we would go and play golf or run automobiles
whilst they were doing it; but with a condition of life where a few
men have it all and the rest can only live if they have the work to
do, why no one can do it for us; we have got to do it ourselves. We
can't even allow a machine to do it, for every time we get the
machine to do the work it takes the place of a man or two, or
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more, and they go out to beg or tramp or starve, as the case may be.</p>
<p>We have got a wonderful system of industry, and industrial life. If
anybody ever invented it, which they didn't, he must have been
standing on his head and drunken at the time he did it. (Laughter and
applause).</p>
<p>And now what are we going to do about it? We have the great mass of
men living upon the will of a few and taking what they can get, and we
have got to get back the earth. A small job. Some people would say,
"Well, if you have got to get it back why don't you go and take it?"
Well, we don't. Some people say we have got to vote it back, and some
say we have got to get it back through labor organizations, and some
say we have got to have a good deal more than that.</p>
<p>I don't know. But I want to say some things about political action. If
we are going to get at it in that way we first had better understand
the size of the contract, and there are a great many people who don't.
(Applause).</p>
<p>We have been voting a long time, and we have a democracy. Everybody
can vote—every man past twenty-one. If we are not doing well enough
we are going to let the women vote; then if we don't do any better we
will let the children vote, and then we will get somewhere.
(Applause). If we are going to get out of this muss by voting, why,
let's have a little of it. We had better have an election every day,
because if we can do it that way it is about the simplest there is.
But we have been working at it a long while and we are getting in
worse all the time.</p>
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