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<tr><td align='left'>N.C. District:</td><td align='left'>No. 2</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Worker:</td><td align='left'>T. Pat Matthews</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>No. Words:</td><td align='left'>723</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Subject:</td><td align='left'>CATHARINE WILLIAMS</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Person Interviewed:</td><td align='left'> Catherine Williams</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Editor:</td><td align='left'>Daisy Bailey Waitt</td></tr>
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<h2> CATHARINE WILLIAMS<br/> </h2>
<h4>2214 Barker Street<br/>
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<p>"My name is Catharine Williams. I was born December
twenty fifth, 1851. I remember my mother, but I do not
know anything about my father. My mother's name was
Adeline Williams. Mother baked ash cakes, but my children
would not eat 'em. She died fifty years ago. I had four
children when she died, but I had three boys and two girls.
I was born in Virginia but I cannot tell what part. I
was four years old when my mother brought me to North
Carolina. Our old master, Dabney Cosby,<SPAN name="FNanchor_10_10" id="FNanchor_10_10"></SPAN><SPAN href="#Footnote_10_10" class="fnanchor">[10]</SPAN> moved from
Virginia to North Carolina then. We came straight into
Raleigh, North Carolina and have been living in Raleigh
ever since.</p>
<p>"We were Williams when owned by Cosby and we were
never sold again, but remained in the same family till
we were set free after the surrender. We had good food,
fair clothing and comfortable sleeping places. I know
what a pallet is. All slep' on 'em a lot in slavery
days, especially when it was hot weather. I makes 'em
now sometimes.</p>
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<p>"My missus wus named Fannie. I do not know how
many slaves they owned, but Marster did not have a
plantation, he lived in town. He was a brick mason,
and he made brick. He had two brick kilns.</p>
<p>"Our missus and marster were kind to us but they
did not teach us to read and write. I learned to read
and write since the surrender. I went to church and
Sunday school. There were no Negro preachers, but we
attended the white folks's church. We did not have any
prayer meetings because our homes were in the white
folks's yard.</p>
<p>"I was never whupped, and mother and myself were
well treated, so I have no complaint to make against our
white folks.</p>
<p>"The first work I done was nursing the children in
the home, next I waited on the table, then general house [HW: work].</p>
<p>"At the last days of the war Wheeler's Calvary
camped around my house at night. They tole us the
Yankees would be in Raleigh the next morning and shore
'nough they came in next morning. If the citizens had not
gone out and surrendered Raleigh to the Yankees they would
have torn Raleigh to pieces. We were living on the
corner of Hargett and Dawson Streets. The Yankees done
us no harm. They done all right in Raleigh. They did not<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_383" id="Page_383">[Pg 383]</SPAN></span>
take nothing around home. They put out guards around the
homes by the time they got in. We were not afraid of 'em,
none of us children, neither white nor colored; they
played such purty music and was dressed so fine. We
run after the band to hear 'em play.</p>
<p>"I heard talk of the patterollers, but never saw
any. I knew very little about the jail in Raleigh for
slaves. I never saw any slaves sold or any in chains. I
never knew of any slaves running away to the North. We
children both white and colored enjoyed the Christmas
holidays together. We played running and jumping and
hide and seek.</p>
<p>"We had doctors when we got sick. Dr. Johnson was
one of them. After the war we stayed on with Marster
and Missus until they died. I have been on Oberlin
Road about twenty-five years.</p>
<p>"No Sir, what you talkin' 'bout? No, there were no
Negro schools in Raleigh at the time of the surrender,
but I have had a good time all my life as far as bein'
treated right is concerned.</p>
<p>"I have never married. I
will have to find that man yet, and at this age I don't
expect to find him. Ha! ha! never found that man yet.
I am staying with my niece.<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_384" id="Page_384">[Pg 384]</SPAN></span></p>
<p>"I know nothing about Abraham Lincoln. He helped
us to be free. I knew nothing about Jefferson Davis,
Booker T. Washington or Roosevelt. I know very little
about Jim Young, only he was a polititian."</p>
<p>LE</p>
<div class="footnotes"><h3>FOOTNOTES:</h3>
<div class="footnote"><p><SPAN name="Footnote_10_10" id="Footnote_10_10"></SPAN><SPAN href="#FNanchor_10_10"><span class="label">[10]</span></SPAN> Dabney Cosby, a practical architect and contractor,
came to Raleigh from Halifax County, Virginia, and did
a good deal of building in the city between 1850 and 1860.
The original Yarborough House (1852) was built by him.
The Heart house, corner Hargett and Dawson Streets, Cosby's
home, and another stucco house, corner Hargett and Harrington
Streets are still standing in the locality mentioned
in the story.</p>
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