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<tr><td align='left'>N.C. District:</td><td align='left'>No. 2</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Worker:</td><td align='left'>Mary A. Hicks</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>No. Words:</td><td align='left'>1083</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Subject:</td><td align='left'>CAROLINE RICHARDSON</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Person Interviewed:</td><td align='left'>Caroline Richardson</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Editor:</td><td align='left'>G.L. Andrews</td></tr>
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<p>[TR: Date stamp: SEP 10 1937]<br/>
[HW: A (circled)]<br/></p>
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<h2>CAROLINE RICHARDSON</h2>
<h4>An interview with Caroline Richardson who does not know her
age. She resides near the northern city limits of Selma.
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<p>"I reckin dat I is somers 'bout sixty year old. Anyhow
I wus ten or twelve when de Yankees come ter Marse Ransome
Bridgers' place near Clayton. Dat's whar I wus borned an'
my pappy, my mammy an' we 'leben chilluns 'longed ter Marse
Ransome an' Mis' Adeline. Dar wus also young Marse George
an' young Miss Betsy who I 'longed to.</p>
<p>"Mis' Adeline wus little an' puny an' Marse Ransome
wus big an' stout, dat's why it am funny dat mammy won't let
Mis' Adeline whup her but she don't say nothin' when de
marster gits de whup. Dere ain't nobody got many whuppin's
nohow an' a slave on marster's place had ter be mean ter git
a whuppin'. You see mammy would sass dem all.</p>
<p>"We ain't heard much 'bout de war, nothin' lak we heard
'bout de world war. I knows dat nobody from our plantation
ain't gone ter dat war case Marse Ransome was too old an'
Marse George wus a patteroller, or maybe he wus just too young.
Dar was a little bit of talk but most of it we ain't heard.
I tended to de slave babies, but my mammy what cooked in de
big house heard some of de war talk an' I heard her a-talkin'
to pappy about it. When she seed me a-listenin' she said dat
she'd cut my year off iffen I told it. I had seen some of de<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_200" id="Page_200">[Pg 200]</SPAN></span>
slaves wid clipped years an' I wanted to keep mine, so I ain't
said nothin'.</p>
<p>"One day Mis' Betsy come out ter de yard an' she sez ter
we chilluns, 'You has got de habit of runnin' ter de gate to
see who can say howdy first to our company, well de Yankees
will be here today or tomorrow an' dey ain't our company.
In fact iffen yo' runs ter de gate ter meet dem dey will shoot
you dead.'</p>
<p>"Ober late dat evenin' I heard music an' I runs ter de
gate ter see whar it am. Comin' down de road as fast as dey
can I sees a bunch of men wid gray suits on a-ridin' like de
debil. Dey don't stop at our house at all but later I heard
dat dey wus Wheeler's cavalry, de very meanest of de Rebs,
though 'tis said dat dey wus brave in battle.</p>
<p>"About a hour atter Wheeler's men come by de Yankees hove
into sight. De drums wus beatin', de flags wavin' an' de hosses
prancin' high. We niggers has been teached dat de Yankees
will kill us, men women an' chilluns. De whole hundert or so
of us runs an' hides.</p>
<p>"Yes mam, I 'members de blue uniforms an' de brass
buttons, an' I 'members how dey said as dey come in de gate
dat dey has as good as won de war, an' dat dey ort ter hang de
southern men what won't go ter war.</p>
<p>"I reckin dat dey talk purty rough ter Marse Ransome.
Anyhow, mammy tells de Yankee Captain dat he ort ter be 'shamed
of talkin' ter a old man like dat. Furder more, she tells dem<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_201" id="Page_201">[Pg 201]</SPAN></span>
dat iffen dat's de way dey're gwine ter git her freedom, she
don't want it at all. Wid dat mammy takes Mis' Betsy upstairs
whar de Yankees won't be a-starin' at her.</p>
<p>"One of de Yankees fin's me an' axes me how many pairs
of shoes I gits a year. I tells him dat I gits one pair.
Den he axes me what I wears in de summertime. When I tells
him dat I ain't wear nothin' but a shirt, an' dat I goes
barefooted in de summer, he cusses awful an' he damns my
marster.</p>
<p>"Mammy said dat dey tol' her an' pappy dat dey'd git
some land an' a mule iffen dey wus freed. You see dey tried
ter turn de slaves agin dere marsters.</p>
<p>"At de surrender most of de niggers left, but me an' my
family stayed fer wages. We ain't really had as good as we
done before de war, an' 'cides dat we has ter worry about
how we're goin' ter live.</p>
<p>"We stayed dar at de same place, de ole Zola May place,
on de Wake an' Johnston line, fer four or five years an' I
went to school a little bit. Atter we left dar we went to
Mr. John H. Wilson's place near Wilson's Mill. It wus at
de end of dese ten years dat mammy wus gwine ter whup Bill,
my brother, so he went off ter Louisanna an' we ain't seed
him since.</p>
<p>"At de end of dis time I married Barney Richardson an'
we had three chilluns, who am all dead now. We worked an'
slaved till we bought dis house an' paid fer it, den in 1918
he died. I married John Haskins de second time but he's been<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_202" id="Page_202">[Pg 202]</SPAN></span>
dead now fer about ten years.</p>
<p>"I told you dat I owned dis shack but you see how de
top has come ter pieces an' de steps has fell down. I'm behind
in my taxes too so I'm 'spectin' dem ter take it away from
me at any time. I has been dependent on de white folks now
fer four or five years. De county gives me two dollars a month
an' de white folks gives me a little now an' den. You see dat
I can't straighten up so I can't work in five years.</p>
<p>"Drawin' water out of dat well wid no curb shore bothers
me too, come an' look at it."</p>
<p>I looked at the well and in the well and was horrified.
There was no curbing at all, only a few rotting planks laid
over the hole, and on these she stood right over the water
while she drew up the heavy bucket with a small rope and without
the aid of a wheel. "I reckin dat some of dese days somebody
will draw me outen dis well," she continued briskly. "Anyhow
hit don't matter much.</p>
<p>"You see dat little patch, wid de roastin' ears comin' an'
de peas a-bloomin'. I grubbed it up wid my hoe an' planted it
myself. Iffen you can spare it I wish you'd give me a quarter
an' iffen you're round here 'bout three weeks stop an' git you
a mess of peas."</p>
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