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<tr><td align='left'>N.C. District:</td><td align='left'>Asheville</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Worker:</td><td align='left'>Marjorie Jones</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>No. Words:</td><td align='left'>2,300</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Subject:</td><td align='left'>Interview with Fannie Moore, Ex-slave.</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Story teller:</td><td align='left'>Fannie Moore</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Editor:</td><td align='left'>Marjorie Jones</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Date:</td><td align='left'>September 27, 1937</td></tr>
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<p>[TR: Cover page is in a format labeled "STATE EDITORIAL
IDENTIFICATION FORM".]</p>
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<ANTIMG src="images/image127.jpg" width-obs="449" height-obs="600" alt="Fannie Moore" title="Fannie Moore" /></SPAN><span class="caption">Fannie Moore</span></p>
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<tr><td align='left'>Interviewer:</td><td align='left'>Marjorie Jones,</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Date:</td><td align='left'>Sept. 21, 1937.</td></tr>
<tr><td align='left'>Interview With:<br/> <br/> </td><td align='left'>Fannie Moore, Ex-slave,<br/>151 Valley Street,<br/>Asheville, N.C.</td></tr>
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<p>"Nowadays when I heah folks a'growlin an' a'grumblin bout not
habbin this an' that I jes think what would they done effen
they be brought up on de Moore plantation. De Moore plantation
b'long to Marse Jim Moore, in Moore, South Carolina. De Moores
had own de same plantation and de same niggers and dey children
for yeahs back. When Marse Jim's pappy die he leave de whole
thing to Marse Jim, effen he take care of his mammy. She shore
was a rip-jack. She say niggers didn't need nothin' to eat.
Dey jes like animals, not like other folks. She whip me, many
time wif a cow hide, til I was black and blue.</p>
<p>"Marse Jim's wife war Mary Anderson. She war the sweetest
woman I ebber saw. She was allus good to evah nigger on de
plantation. Her mother was Harriet Anderson and she visit de
Missus for long time on de farm. All de little niggers like to
work fo' her. She nebber talk mean. Jes smile dat sweet smile
and talk in de soffes' tone. An when she laugh, she soun' jes
like de little stream back ob de spring house gurglin' past
de rocks. An' her hair all white and curly, I can 'member her
always.</p>
<p>"Marse Jim own de bigges' plantation in de whole country.
Jes thousands acres ob lan'. An de ole Tiger Ribber a runnin'
right through de middle ob de plantation. On one side ob de
ribber stood de big house, whar de white folks lib and on the
other side stood de quarters. De big house was a purty thing all
painted white, a standin' in a patch o' oak trees. I can't
remember how many rooms in dat house but powerful many. O'corse<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_129" id="Page_129">[Pg 129]</SPAN></span>
it was built when de Moores had sech large families. Marse Jim
he only hab five children, not twelve like his mammy had. Dey
was Andrew and Tom, den Harriet, Nan, and Nettie Sue. Harriett
was jes like her granny Anderson. She was good to ebberbody.
She git de little niggers down an' teach em dey Sunday School
lesson. Effen ole Marse Jim's mammy ketch her she sho' raise
torment. She make life jes as hard for de niggers as she can.</p>
<p>"De quarters jes long row o' cabins daubed wif dirt. Ever
one in de family lib in one big room. In one end was a big fireplace.
Dis had to heat de cabin and do de cookin too. We cooked
in a big pot hung on a rod over de fire and bake de co'n pone in
de ashes or else put it in de skillet and cover de lid wif coals.
We allus hab plenty wood to keep us warm. Dat is ef we hab time
to get it outen de woods.</p>
<p>"My granny she cook for us chillens while our mammy away in de
fiel. Dey wasn't much cookin to do. Jes make co'n pone and bring
in de milk. She hab big wooden bowl wif enough wooden spoons to
go 'roun'. She put de milk in de bowl and break it up. Den she
put de bowl in de middle of de flo' an' all de chillun grab a
spoon.</p>
<p>"My mammy she work in de fiel' all day and piece and quilt all
night. Den she hab to spin enough thread to make four cuts for
de white fo'ks ebber night. Why sometime I nebber go to bed.
Hab to hold de light for her to see by. She hab to piece quilts
for de white folks too. Why dey is a scar on my arm yet where
my brother let de pine drip on me. Rich pine war all de light
we ebber hab. My brother was a holdin' de pine so's I can help<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_130" id="Page_130">[Pg 130]</SPAN></span>
mammy tack de quilt and he go to sleep and let it drop.</p>
<p>"I never see how my mammy stan' sech ha'd work. She stan' up
fo' her chillun tho'. De ol' overseeah he hate my mammy, case
she fight him for beatin' her chillun. Why she git more whuppins
for dat den anythin' else. She hab twelve chillun. I member I
see de three oldes' stan' in de snow up to dey knees to split
rails, while de overseeah stan off an' grin.</p>
<p>"My mammy she trouble in her heart bout de way they treated.
Ever night she pray for de Lawd to git her an' her chillun out
ob de place. One day she plowin' in de cotton fiel. All sudden
like she let out big yell. Den she sta't singin' an' a shoutin',
an' a whoopin' an' a hollowin'. Den it seem she plow all de
harder. When she come home, Marse Jim's mammy say: 'What all
dat goin' on in de fiel? Yo' think we sen' you out there jes
to whoop and yell? No siree, we put you out there to work and
you sho' bettah work, else we git de overseeah to cowhide you
ole black back.' My mammy jes grin all over her black wrinkled
face and say: 'I's saved. De Lawd done tell me I's saved. Now
I know de Lawd will show me de way, I ain't gwine a grieve no
more. No matter how much yo' all done beat me an' my chillun de
Lawd will show me de way. An' some day we nevah be slaves.'
Ole granny Moore grab de cowhide and slash mammy cross de back
but mammy nebber yell. She jes go back to de fiel a singin'.</p>
<p>"My mammy grieve lots over brothah George, who die wif de
fever. Granny she doctah him as bes' she could, evah time she<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_131" id="Page_131">[Pg 131]</SPAN></span>
git way from de white folks kitchen. My mammy nevah git chance
to see him, 'cept when she git home in de evenin'. George he
jes lie. One day I look at him an' he had sech a peaceful look
on his face, I think he sleep and jes let him lone. Long in de
evenin I think I try to wake him. I touch him on de face, but
he was dead. Mammy nebber know til she come at night. Pore
mammy she kneel by de bed an' cry her heart out. Ol' uncle Allen,
he make pine box for him an' carry him to de graveyard over on
de hill. My mammy jes plow and cry as she watch em' put George
in de groun'.</p>
<p>"My pappy he was a blacksmith. He shoe all de horses on de
plantation. He wo'k so hard he hab no time to go to de fiel'.
His name war Stephen Moore. Mars Jim call him Stephen Andrew.
He was sold to de Moores, and his mammy too. She war brought
over from Africa. She never could speak plain. All her life
she been a slave. White folks never recognize 'em any more
than effen dey was a dog.</p>
<p>"It was a tubble sight to see de speculators come to de plantation.
Dey would go through de fields and buy de slaves dey
wanted. Marse Jim nebber sell pappy or mammy or any ob dey
chillun. He allus like pappy. When de speculator come all de
slaves start a shakin'. No one know who is a goin'. Den sometime
dey take 'em an' sell 'em on de block. De 'breed woman' always
bring mo' money den de res', ebben de men. When dey put her on de
block dey put all her chillun aroun her to show folks how fas she
can hab chillun. When she sold her family nebber see her agin.
She nebber know [HW: how] many chillun she hab. Some time she hab colored<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_132" id="Page_132">[Pg 132]</SPAN></span>
children an' sometime white. Taint no use to say anything case
effen she do she jes git whipped. Why on de Moore plantation
Aunt Cheney, everbody call her Aunt Cheney, have two chillun by
de overseeah. De overseeah name war Hill. He war as mean as de
devil. When Aunt Cheney not do what he ask he tell granny Moore.
Ole Granny call Aunt Cheney to de kitchen and make her take her
clothes off den she beat her til she jest black an' blue. Many
boys and girls marry dey own brothers and sisters an' nebber know
de difference lest they get to talkin' bout dey parents and where
dey uster lib.</p>
<p>"De niggers allus hab to get pass to go anywhere offen de plantation.
Dey git de pass from de massa or de missus. Den when
de paddyrollers come dey had to show de pass to dem, if you had
no pass dey strip you an' beat you.</p>
<p>"I remember one time dey was a dance at one ob de houses in de
quarters. All de niggers was a laughin an' a pattin' dey feet an'
a singin', but dey was a few dat didn't. De paddyrollers shove
de do' open and sta't grabbin' us. Uncle Joe's son he decide dey
was one time to die and he sta't to fight. He say he tired
standin' so many beatin's, he jes can't stan' no mo. De paddyrollers
start beatin' him an' he sta't fightin'. Oh, Lawdy it
war tubble. Dey whip him wif a cowhide for a long time den one
of dem take a stick an' hit him over de head, an' jes bus his
head wide open. De pore boy fell on de flo' jes a moanin' an'
a groanin. De paddyrollers jes whip bout half dozen other niggers
an' sen' em home and leve us wif de dead boy.</p>
<p>"None o' the niggers have any learnin', warn't never 'lowed to<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_133" id="Page_133">[Pg 133]</SPAN></span>
as much as pick up a piece o' paper. My daddy slip an' get a
Webster book and den he take it outen de fiel and he larn to
read. De white folks 'fraid to let de children learn anythin'.
They fraid dey get too sma't and be harder to manage. Dey nebber
let em know anything about anythin'. Never have any church.
Effen you go you set in de back of de white folks chu'ch. But
de niggers slip off an' pray an' hold prayer-meetin' in de
woods den dey tu'n down a big wash pot and prop it up wif a stick
to drown out de soun' ob de singin'. I 'member some of de songs
we uster sing. One of dem went somethin' like dis:</p>
<div class="poem"><div class="stanza">
<span class="i0">"'Hark from de tomb a doleful soun'<br/></span>
<span class="i0">My ears hear a tender cry.<br/></span>
<span class="i0">A livin' man come through the groun'<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Whar we may shortly lie.<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Heah in dis clay may be you bed<br/></span>
<span class="i0">In spite ob all you toil<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Let all de wise bow revrant head<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Mus' lie as low as ours.'<br/></span></div>
</div>
<p>"Then dey sing one I can hardly remember but dis is some of de words:</p>
<div class="poem"><div class="stanza">
<span class="i0">"'Jesus can make you die in bed<br/></span>
<span class="i0">He sof' as downs in pillow there<br/></span>
<span class="i0">On my bres' I'll lean my head<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Grieve my life sweetly there.<br/></span>
<span class="i0">In dis life of heaby load<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Let us share de weary traveler<br/></span>
<span class="i0">Along de heabenly road.'<br/></span></div>
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<p><span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_134" id="Page_134">[Pg 134]</SPAN></span></p>
<p>"Back in dose time dey wasn't no way to put away fruit and
things fo' winter like dey is today. In de fall of de yeah it
certainly was a busy time. We peel bushels of apples and peaches
to dry. Dey put up lots o' brandied peaches too. De way dey
done dey peel de peaches and cut em up. Then dey put a layer ob
peaches in a crock den a layer ob sugar den another layer ob
peaches until de crock was full. Den dey seel de jar by puttin'
a cloth over de top then a layer o' paste then another cloth then
another layer ob paste. Dey keep dey meat bout de same way
foks do today 'cept dey had to smoke it more since salt was so
sca'ce back in dat day. Dey can mos' ob de other fruit and
put it in de same kin' o' jars dat dey put de peaches in. Dey
string up long strings o' beans an' let 'em dry and cook em
wif fat back in de winter.</p>
<p>"Folks back den never heah tell of all de ailments de folks
hab now. Dey war no doctahs. Jes use roots and bark for teas
of all kinds. My ole granny uster make tea out o' dogwood
bark an' give it to us chillun when we have a cold, else she
make a tea outen wild cherry bark, pennyroil, or hoarhound.
My goodness but dey was bitter. We do mos' enythin' to git
out a takin' de tea, but twarnt no use granny jes git you by de
collar hol' yo' nose and you jes swallow it or get strangled.
When de baby hab de colic she git rats vein and make a syrup an'
put a little sugar in it an' boil it. Den soon [HW: as] it cold she give
it to de baby. For stomach ache she give us snake root. Sometime
she make tea, other time she jes cut it up in little pieces
an' make you eat one or two ob dem. When you hab fever she wrap<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_135" id="Page_135">[Pg 135]</SPAN></span>
you up in cabbage leaves or ginsang leaves, dis made de fever go.
When de fever got too bad she take the hoofs offen de hog dat had
been killed and parch em' in de ashes and den she beat em' up
and make a tea. Dis was de most tubble of all.</p>
<p>"De yeah fore de war started Marse Jim died. He war out in de
pasture pickin' up cow loads a throwin' em in de garden an' he
jes drop over. I hate to see Marse Jim go, he not sech a bad
man. Ater he die his boys, Tom an' Andrew take cha'ge of de plantation.
Dey think dey run things diffe'nt from dey daddy, but
dey jes git sta'ted when de war come. Marse Tom and Marse Andrew
both hab to go. My pappy he go long wif dem to do der cookin.
My pappy he say dat some day he run four or five miles wif de
Yankees ahind him afore he can stop to do any cookin. Den when
he stop he cook wif de bullets a fallin all roun de kettles. He
say he walk on ded men jes like he walkin on de groun'. Some of
de men be dead, some moanin' an' some a groanin', but nobody pay
no tention, case de Yankees keep a comin. One day de Yankees
come awful close Marse Andrew hab de Confed'rate flag in his
han'. He raise it high in de air. Pappy say he yell for him to
put de flag down case de Yankees was a comin' closer an' was
agoin' to capture him anyway. But Marse Andrew jes hol' de flag
up an run 'hind a tree. De Yankee sojers jes take one shot at him
an' dat was de las' of him. My pappy bring him home. De fambly
put him in alcohol. One day I went to see him and there he was
a swimmin' round in de water. Mos' ob his hair done come off tho.
He buried at Nazereth. I could go right back to de graveyard
effen I was there. Den my pappy go back to [HW: stay] with Marse Tom.<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_136" id="Page_136">[Pg 136]</SPAN></span>
Marse Tom was jes wounded. Effen he hadn't had a Bible in his
pocket de bullet go clear through his heart. But yo' all kno'
no bullet ain't goin' through de Bible. No, you can't shoot
through God's word. Pappy he bring Marse Tom home an' take
care of him til he well. Marse Tom give pappy a horse an'
wagon case he say he save his life.</p>
<p>"Many time de sojers come through de plantation an' dey load
up dey wagons wif ebberthing dey fin', lasses, hams, chickens.
Sometime dey gib part of it to de niggers but de white folks take
it way when dey git gone. De white folks hide all de silverware
from de soldiers. Dey fraid dey take it when dey come. Some
time dey make us tell effen dey think we know.</p>
<p>"After de war pappy go back to work on de plantation. He make
his own crop, on de plantation. But de money was no good den.
I played wif many a Confed'rate dollar. He sho was happy dat
he was free. Mammy she shout fo' joy an' say her prayers war
answered. Pappy git pretty feeble, but he work til jest fore he
die. He made patch of cotton wif a hoe. Dey was enough cotton
in de patch to make a bale. Pappy die when he 104 years old.
Mammy she live to be 105.</p>
<p>"After de war de Ku Klux broke out. Oh, miss dey was mean.
In dey long white robes dey scare de niggers to death. Dey keep
close watch on dem afeared dey try to do somethin'. Dey have
long horns an' big eyes an' mouth. Dey never go roun' much in
de day. Jes night. Dey take de pore niggers away in de woods
and beat 'em and hang 'em. De niggers was afraid to move, much
les try to do anything. Dey never kno' what to do, dey hab no<span class="pagenum"><SPAN name="Page_137" id="Page_137">[Pg 137]</SPAN></span>
larnin. Hab no money. All dey can do was stay on de same plantation
til dey can do better. We lib on de same plantation till
de chillun all grown an' mammy an' pappy both die then we leave.
I don' know where any of my people are now. I knows I was bo'n
in 1849. I was 88 years old de fust of September."</p>
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